The elihu speeches their place and sense in the book of job

Job spends his entire book in a position of sadness and loss. In the book of job, job has three friends approach him and condemn him for evil. Really, the culmination of the book are the gods speeches. Elihu also stood up as a witness for the biblical god jah, when others would not. Even scholars who regard the book of job as a literary composition by a single author tend to see in elihus speeches an early addition or commentary to the original book. Was it unfair for god to allow job to suffer over what was. Oct 29, 2012 time and time again throughout the story of job, job s three friends, eliphaz, bildad, and zophar, make speeches to job. In this paper i discuss whether the elihu speeches are later interpolations or original to the writing, and i defend the latter. He isnt mentioned as one of jobs friends, but apparently he was there listening in on their conversation, because he knows all about it when he chimes in. Elihu has been standing in the shadows, giving deference to his older friends. A brash young man who knows nothing of spiritual things. He expresses dissatisfaction with the friends reasoning and also with their inability to counter jobs arguments v12.

The role and character of elihu in the book of job the doc file. Commentary on the book of job chapter thirtytwo by wm w wells. And his insight does indeed make sense out of the apparently arbitrary suffering that. There is little in the book of job to give an indication thats its a true story such as a time and place even by the lax standards of the bible.

Why wasnt elihu included in gods scolding to jobs friends. Is it significant that job gives no response to elihu. Job 32 good news translation gnt the speeches of elihu. Was it unfair for god to allow job to suffer over what was basically an argument between god and satan. Some question the status of elihus interruption and didactic sermon because of his sudden appearance and disappearance from the text. Oct 23, 2014 elihu, the forgotten prophet of job the book of job is one of the most important of the entire bible, and is a prerequisite to all discussions of christian theology, particularly theodicy. Elihu takes a middle ground, and says that neither was the correct opinion. Mackey was the young elihu of the book of job chs 3237, as according to some, an enlightened prophet whose input is crucial to the dialogue, providing a bridge between job and god, or, as according to mason, an astonishingly pompous little. Bear with me a little, and i will show you that there are yet words to speak on gods. Does this suggest the author believes elihu has contributed some important insight that cannot be countered. Some scholars think that the elihu speeches are entirely secondary. In the words of aquinas, he uses more penetrating arguments against job than the prior speeches and approaches nearer the truth.

It is true elihu is not mentioned elsewhere in the book. Given the fact that elihu is never mentioned in the book of job outside of chapters 3237, and that these. The enigma of elihu spectrum website spectrum conversation. But the writer of the book of job is not satisfied to live that way. He prosecuted his former discourse, he thus pronounced as the vulgate hath it in answer to some of jobs former speeches, which he here reciteth, but not so candidly. Aug 30, 2012 evidence that elihu prepared job for god when we concluded our readings on the book of job in the bible meditator, we wondered about the messages of elihu, the young man who listened to the debate between job and his friends. Interpretations of elihu in job biblical hermeneutics. Dec 03, 2010 finally, we will draw conclusions about the overall role that elihu plays in the drama 8 of job. But at the beginning job 32 and at the end job 37, they are skillfully woven into the fabric of the book and made to play a legitimate role. Elihu denounces job for losing faith and denying gods justice. Most books of the bible take place on larger stages, but the book of job goes down at a very specific and narrow point in the human life cycle. Elihu was the son of barakel, a descendant of buz, and belonged to the clan of ram.

Their place and sense in the book of job ragnar andersen tune in ostfold, norway the different opinions about the elihu speeches job 3237 contribute greatly to confusion in research on the book of job. The bulk of elihu s speech then focuses on the justice of god, which elihu feels job has maligned. And then job, when it gets that place, he gets hooked up again. Elihu the second half of the book of job is made up of three major speeches. Elihus speeches seem more a criticism of the whole book of job to this point than of job. In the book of job, it becomes clear that the first three of jobs friends eliphaz, blidad, and zophar speak wrongly. Nov 20, 2010 job and elihu as job is confronted with his so called friends we meet someone elihu who is never acknowledged of god. Nov 11, 2014 this seems like a legitimate point, as god levies similar arguments later the in the book. He is not mentioned anywhere else in the book, which means the author doesnt give us any clues as to whether he is to be. The different opinions about the elihu speeches job 3237 contribute greatly to confusion in research on the book of job. The bulk of this argument comes from putting god on trial. A surface reading of the book of job usually evokes a reaction such as why is god making a bet with the devil. Job 28 marks a major turning point in the development of the book. First, elihu is mentioned nowhere in the book of job outside of his speeches in job 3237.

However, at the end of the story, god chastises all of jobs friends except elihu. Job 36 elihu teaches job about god look at the book. If we were to film this book, the whole movie would take place on a single set, probably in a single day. Jun 14, 2017 a2a what is the role of elihu in the book of job. Elihus speeches seem more a criticism of the whole book of job to this point than of job himself. Waters has made an outstanding contribution to the study of the book of job and the subject of undeserved suffering. Time and time again throughout the story of job, jobs three friends, eliphaz, bildad, and zophar, make speeches to job. Their speeches became repetitive, hostile, and shorter as the conversation comes to a close. Evidence that elihu prepared job for god the bible meditator. Elihu s assertion that job had claimed innocence is an overstatement. I admit that there are some things in elihus speeches very hard to understand. Before the character and role of elihu in the book of job can be considered, the question regarding whether or not the elihu speeches are an original part of the book of job must be addressed. If we are to conclude that often what is most important is spoken last, then we are on sure footing when concluding that pride is a major theme in these speeches and an indication of the true sin that job. And thats the position that the biblical character elihu finds himself in.

The elihu speeches1 their place and sense in the book of job. And when we hear people saying those kinds of things, were often compelled to speak in defense of god or those other people. Elihu is afraid that theyll just let god do what in his mind they should actually be doing. Elihu seems to allude to things said in the previous cycles of dialogues. And so, elihu is afraid that these friends were planning to abdicate what he views to be their responsibility to answer job. Second, the style of the elihu speeches is different from the style used in the other parts of the book. The role and character of elihu in the book of job the. Dec 01, 2016 is it significant that job gives no response to elihu. Job had verged to the other extreme, and had said that it looked as if god had forsaken those that loved him, and that there was no advantage in being righteous. Questions about elihu in the book of job scripture. This is most apparent with elihu who appears, gives a speech and then disappears. They will say a pious scribe came upon the book of job and he was just not happy with it and he thought he would improve upon it, so he added the speeches of elihu. And then he takes it upon himself to spend about five chaptersan eighth of the entire bookspouting off his thoughts. What needs to be noted about the entire book of job that seems to get.

The elihu speeches in the criticism of the book of job. The authenticity of the elihu speeches in job 3237 29 allotted to elihu in comparison to the four chapters assigned to eliphaz, the three to bildad, and the two to zophar, b the placement of the elihu speeches in the book, and c the reaction the speeches have. Then, seemingly out of nowhere, a fourth friend steps in and is given six consecutive chapters to present yet another speech to job. Blumell he was raised on the third day according to the scriptures 1 corinthians 15. Because job was suffering, they were of the opinion that job had some hidden evil. Also waterss discussion of elihus four speeches shows that critics are wrong in suggesting elihus view of suffering was no different from that of jobs three companions. The book of job young elihu speaks 3237 objectives in studying this section 1 to examine elihu s perspective in the debate regarding job s suffering 2 to notice how elihu appears to prepare job for what the lord will have to say summary we are now introduced to a new voice in this discussion. This final time, there is no speech from the third friend, zophar.

It is the young elihu who brings a fresh approach to the situation and raises jobs thought by pointing out that sometimes god uses suffering for a higher purpose. It is true, he says, that the righteous are afflicted, but they are not forsaken. Irwin that the book of job divides obviously and naturally into several large sections is freely admitted by all students of the book of whatever stripe of critical bias. Their sin, and nothing god has put in place, as elihu explains. Interpretations of elihu in job biblical hermeneutics stack exchange. In other words, that the job poet, the original book, did not include the elihu speeches. He isnt mentioned as one of job s friends, but apparently he was there listening in on their conversation, because he knows all about it when he chimes in.

The point elihu was making is that gods retributive justice. God knows what he is doing and will leave a person in place who. Elihu teaches job about the justice and righteousness of god. Interpretations of elihu in job biblical hermeneutics stack. The elihu speeches their place and sense in the book of. In the first speech, there is a short introduction vv. The elihu speeches are thought by many to be a later addition to the text, but they are absolutely essential to the story. Questions about elihu in the book of job scripture zealot blog.

The elihu speeches their place and sense in the book of job. First, the name elihu is a variant spelling of the name elijah, and elihus actions in the book of job suggest a strong connection to the great prophet. First, the name elihu is a variant spelling of the name elijah, and elihu s actions in the book of job suggest a strong connection to the great prophet. God and are totally dependent on his grace for deliverance. The book of job consists of a prose prologue and epilogue narrative framing poetic dialogues and monologues. After a few rounds of back and forth, the friends quite down. People say things about god and other people that just arent right. The climax of the book of job comes with the speeches of yahweh beginning in chapter 38. However, at the end of the story, god chastises all of job s friends except elihu. Elihu proclaims his indignation and eagerness to speak v1620. The authenticity of the elihu speeches in job 3237 31. The book of job young elihu speaks 3237 objectives in studying this section 1 to examine elihus perspective in the debate regarding jobs suffering 2 to notice how elihu appears to prepare job for what the lord will have to say summary we are now introduced to a new voice in this discussion. With large parts of job being the arguments of his friends which are afterwards being repudiated by god himself, and job repen.

In light of elihus rebuke of job selfrighteousness, however, were. We have already looked at the first, which is jobs speech. You can hear a palpable sneer as he says, i attended unto you, and, behold, there was none of you that convinced job, or that answered his words 32. Furthermore, if god truly is the allpowerful sovereign that he portrays himself as in job 3841, it seems. Unfortunately, two erroneous interpretations of job s theses are by far the most popular. Evans, john maclaren 1990 elihu and the interpretation of the. The speeches, while very poetic at times, dont offer much in the way of logic. The authenticity of the elihu speeches in job 3237 29 allotted to elihu in comparison to the four chapters assigned to eliphaz, the three to bildad, and the two to zophar, b the placement of the elihu speeches in the book, and c the reaction the speeches have drawn from critical circles on the question of authenticity. After 35 chapters of human discussion that has often seemed futile and meaningless, god finally speaks. But his friends speeches try to convince job of the precise opposite. It is the spirit or character of elihu, as expressed and recorded in the book of job, that in many ways parallels the aims and the efforts of elihu books.

He came to his senses quickly and realized that god is almighty and powerful and he was a mere. Elihu is a strange character, at least in the sense of how and where he appears in the book of job. Elihu believes that the three friends are right in their condemnation of job, but are wrong in their failure to convince job of sin. Elihu not mentioned in the close of the book job 42. Speakers of that day impressed their audience more by eloquence than by rigorous logic ill explain. So eliphaz, bildad, and zophar were not able to sustain their theory in the face of job s realism and integrity. In what possible sense could job have spoken rightly about god. Elihus assertion that job had claimed innocence is an overstatement. When we concluded our readings on the book of job in the bible meditator, we wondered about the messages of elihu, the young man who listened to the debate between job and his friends. Not only do they incur the indignation of job and his other friend elihu, but god himself rebukes them, saying to eliphaz, i am angry with you and your two friends, because you have not spoken the truth about me, as my.

Although there are many variations, the reasons for rejecting the authenticity of the elihu speeches basically fall into four categories. Yahweh has not spoken since job 12 and there he had only spoken to the satan. Elihu explains his view of suffering in one other place, namely, 36. Elihu charges job with adding to his sin by multiplying words against god without knowledge 34. Elihu by arthur davis on 28 march 2010 10 comments. The present argument is, however, not much affected if one interprets elihus speeches more positively, as done by c.

At a recent pastors conference on the book of job, a leader asked the attendees whether the speeches of elihu job 3237 should be. Weve just written essays on the book of job, and ive been looking at whether or not the text answers questions of suffering. The three comforters, eliphaz, bildad, and zophar, do not speak again. The third and best understanding of elihus role in the book of job is that he helps to prepare job for gods appearance in the whirlwind. But in between the two comes a person whom we have not seen before, a young man by the name of elihu. He concludes his speech with an effort to speak on gods behalf and by ascribing righteousness to the almighty. Dec 03, 2010 the third and best understanding of elihu s role in the book of job is that he helps to prepare job for gods appearance in the whirlwind. The characteristics elihu assigns to himself are indeed desirable. Many scholars feel as if the book of job would have more integrity if elihu and his speeches were wiped from its pages mckenna p. Their place and sense in the book of job tyndale bulletin 66 1 2015 7594.

Not only do they incur the indignation of job and his other friend elihu, but god himself rebukes them, saying to eliphaz, i am angry with you and your two friends, because you have not spoken the truth about me, as my servant job has. God finally arriving in person to judge not just in the sense of judgement. Bear with me a little, and i will show you that there are yet words to speak on gods behalf. So job does not answer him, although he still deviates a little from the truth and interprets the words of job in the wrong sense, as we shall clearly see commentary on the book of job, chapter 32. In the book of job, it becomes clear that the first three of job s friends eliphaz, blidad, and zophar speak wrongly. They are alluded to in chapter 32 and god speaks against them in chapter 42 but they have passed from. This writer cannot accommodate to the opinions of some very respected commentators who understand elihus speeches as not merely commendable, but actually appropriate as an introduction to. Their place and sense in the book of job, tynbul 66 2015. Its as if they are writing letters rather than speaking or the speeches were compiled separately. Now that everyone has quit talking, elihu is ready to step up and show both job s friends and job that they are wrong.